AVC: Do you think that shows like Top Chef, and your own show, and the rise of celebrity chefs in general, have led to a more pronounced foodie culture in America?
AB: I think so. I hope so. Anything that improves people's expectations of a meal is good for the world. Anything that weans even one kid or one adult away from Chili's or T.G.I. Friday's is definitely a win for the good guys.
AVC: So you think it's raised people's standards as a whole of what they will and will not eat?
AB: I think so. You need only go to the supermarket and see how many different types of mushrooms and cheese and breads there are than before. It's gone a whole lot slower than I would hope, though. I think that every time Sandra Lee opens her mouth on television, we take a step backward. [Laughs.]
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Les Chartreux maitres de forges
De *Auguste Bouchayer *
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